so far -- host: let's go to carl. caller: i have a couple of comments. i have been in the gas and oil industry on and off for 40 years, and there are so many misconceptions i am hearing, it is making me pull my hair out. let me say a couple of things. one, talking about the keystone pipeline and how it is "going to ruin the aquifer in the midwest ," when all these people that say this -- i do not hear one of them say we do have quite a few hundred miles of pipes out there right now, and in fact they have been working successfully for many, many years. as long as they're put in and maintained properly, for the most part they do not leak. two, we need that pipeline. we have all this oil and gas being drilled in south dakota. it cannot get to the refinery. what refineries we have left, because now we have the epa, who has created conditions where the refineries have to add a biomass which does not exist anywhere but in the laboratory. and they are finding -- they are finding the refineries for not using a product that does not exist. guest: trans canada wou